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Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Unbiased Reporting by the Joklahoman and Sampson

Ok, Dillon - any comments on John Rohde's article on today's Joklahoman? This is someone who has been called out as a clear Sooner supporter, and as a less than nice journalist by some other friends of ours around here.

I also have to say that, while not unpredictable, I agree to a large extent with what Kelvin is saying and not Rohde. Kelvin is a tireless worker. And he clearly broke the rules. But I have to believe he did not do so intentionally. There isn't a clear track record here (not even as lengthy as Eddie Sutton's if you ask me), which I believe is key to proving undeniable intent.

We'll see how all this plays out, but I sure hope it doesn't compromise the OU program more than it already has.

And more related to this year's team, I have to say this year is frankly - disappointing so far. Usually at this point, OU has a couple of losses to good teams. But they've also traditionally shown a lot of promise and improvement. The talent's there. The question to answer remains to be whether they'll actually live up to it.

- Conor (sorry for not signing my other posts)


  • Sure, I have comments. Are you sure you want to hear them?

    First of all, Rohde is a douche bag of a reporter, and I don’t think anyone cares to read what he is writing. However, it looks like Berry Tramel wrote this article.

    As for the article, if Sampson didn’t know that making excessive phone calls is cheating, then he shouldn’t be a head coach. 100 of the 550 illegal phone calls went to juniors, and it is illegal to contact any underclassmen. Come on, I knew that!!!

    Number one rule, know the rules!!! Rule number two, when you are caught, admit to it. Sampson did neither. In fact, last year the NCAA told Sampson of the investigation, and the calls still didn’t stop. Stupidity doesn’t get you very far in the coaching world.

    Something strange in the article caught my eye. Tramel claims that Arkansas, Texas, and LSU should be demanding that Damion James be ruled ineligible at OU, because he was a part of this illegal activity. Don’t punish the kid, punish the program. If a phone call made that much of a difference then, the Arkansas, Texas, and LSU really suck at recruiting.

    Even though it is a full year after the official investigation started, I am still surprised that the Daily Disappointment covered this story at all. Was it on page 13 or something?

    As for being unbiased, are you joking? Is being biased a “gray area”? If you are trying to convince me that the Gaylord owned Daily Oklahoman is not biased, then you are wasting your time. Why no reporting on the story when it was hot?

    By Anonymous Dillon, at 10:23 AM  

  • Obviously, I am not the only person who thinks the daily oklahoman sucks.

    By Anonymous Dillon, at 1:00 PM  

  • My problem with this gross neglect for the rules as Rhode is trying to point out in the article. Is that the same rules don't apply to everyone. In fact because of the phone system OSU has they can never be caught for these rules violations. Their phones are not set up the same way and therefore can't be tracked by the NCAA. So I have a tough time jumping all over Kelvin Sampson, when I would gaurantee programs all over the nation are doing this same thing and is why Texas, LSU and Arkansas aren't making too much noise, they don't want to be looked at about this either. Sampson was stupid, he should have just bought a cell phone and this would be a mute point.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:40 AM  

  • I don't know who wrote the last comment, so please sign your posts.

    Anyways, are you trying to tell me that the OSU phone system is untraceable or something? If so, the NCAA could query the alleged recruits telephone bills. Please provide some insight as to why the NCAA can not track OSU’s phone calls.

    I have no evidence to back this up, but rumor has it that before Tramel released his column, he used the Open Records Act to obtain a copy of Oklahoma State’s phone records. Obviously, he didn’t know the phone system was untraceable.

    The "everyone is doing it" excuse stops working in about the 8th grade. Everyone does not break the rules.

    By Anonymous Dillon, at 10:54 AM  

  • Actually, it came from the original e-mail that you sent out. The one that stated many phone systems are untraceable, I don't know the details, but it has to do with the way that the lines are set up. After some research I found that that OSU is one of the schools that has such a phone system, they are not alone, there are many. It is not as easy as the Open Records Act. Read the first article you sent out about this and then tell me I am wrong that this is in fact true, thank you for trying though.

    By Anonymous Schilling, at 11:05 AM  

  • Schilling (Thanks for signing your post),

    Most OU fans that I talk to, feel the same way that you do about Sampson and illegal phone calls. However, the NCAA seems to think it is a little more serious. This may be because the AAU investigation may not be finished, and the allegations may begin to grow. Then again, it might be that the NCAA wants Sampson, who chaired a previous NCAA ethics committee, to sweat for a few months.

    “Everyone does it”, “The calls didn’t land a single player”, and “his --insert relative here-- answered” are the most common responses that OU fans are saying. First off, everyone does not do it, and if they did, that is no excuse for Sampson to do it also. Second, this is not the first “gray area” that Kelvin Sampson has entered. It was not too long ago that the Will Bynum incident went down.

    I think Sampson knew the rules, and I think Sampson broke the rules intentionally. I also think that Sampson asked his staff to break the rules. This leads to lack of institutional control. I know, I know…..“but everyone is doing it!!!”

    By Anonymous Dillon, at 1:16 PM  

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